It's only been... I don't know, 6 months or so since I moved into my art studio, and my figures moved along with me. It's taken that long just to put up a backdrop for photographing figures. What a difference! The puke colored wallpaper really did alter the photos drastically.
Mind you, I still haven't fixed the lighting yet. So these photos are just a change in background...
The dipped Persians from the last photo.
And some Skaven jezzails left over from the sell-off of my Skaven army.
These (Skaven) are still for sale, by the way. I'm going to be posting a list of the remaining few items soon (maybe later tonight.)
Showing posts with label Persians. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Persians. Show all posts
23 September 2011
Double Dipping - Persian Tests
I thought I'd try two "dips" on some of those Persians I assembled.
The three on the left are don using regular ol' Minwax, the three on the right use my homemade "Substance D" that I've previously mentioned, and tested a few times.
Truthfully, I'm not that happy with either result. But I'm definitely more unhappy with my Substance D dip. I tried touching up the three on the right. Maybe if I give the three on the left the sametreatment they will look better.
I really don't want to (and don't have the time to) paint a hundred or so Persians. I think they are going on the back burner for a while, anyway. I just wanted to try a bit of comparative dipping. If/when I get some time, it's most likely back to the Romans & ancient Spanish.
The three on the left are don using regular ol' Minwax, the three on the right use my homemade "Substance D" that I've previously mentioned, and tested a few times.
Truthfully, I'm not that happy with either result. But I'm definitely more unhappy with my Substance D dip. I tried touching up the three on the right. Maybe if I give the three on the left the sametreatment they will look better.
I really don't want to (and don't have the time to) paint a hundred or so Persians. I think they are going on the back burner for a while, anyway. I just wanted to try a bit of comparative dipping. If/when I get some time, it's most likely back to the Romans & ancient Spanish.
06 September 2011
Persian Command
There's not a lot of options for command figures in the WF Persian kit previously reviewed, so this is what I'm using:
The leader with the sword is just bits from the kit, the standard is a bit of thin plasticard on a longer spear that was left over from the Amazon set. The spears in the Persan kit were too small for a standard. I probably should have done something with the point at the butt end, but I was lazy. Both figures have the same stiff left arm because of the issue with the only alternate that I mentioned in my last entry. I may see if there are some other usable arms I can borrow from some of the other kits.
Just a note... This shot and the last were taken with my phone. I notice that while it doesn't render color very well, and isn't great with large, landscapy photos, it does a decent job with detailed close ups. If you click the image above, the enlarged version is only about 1/4 the size of the original file.
The leader with the sword is just bits from the kit, the standard is a bit of thin plasticard on a longer spear that was left over from the Amazon set. The spears in the Persan kit were too small for a standard. I probably should have done something with the point at the butt end, but I was lazy. Both figures have the same stiff left arm because of the issue with the only alternate that I mentioned in my last entry. I may see if there are some other usable arms I can borrow from some of the other kits.
Just a note... This shot and the last were taken with my phone. I notice that while it doesn't render color very well, and isn't great with large, landscapy photos, it does a decent job with detailed close ups. If you click the image above, the enlarged version is only about 1/4 the size of the original file.
04 September 2011
WF Persian Review Addendum
Two more comments about the Persians in the previous review.
My boxes had 32 figures in them. Only 24 can be armed with bows. Not a big deal, just FYI. Also, there are no slings in the set. I think I will cannibalize some of the others I may have around for some slingers. The rest of the non-bow troops will probably end up with javelins.
Second, some of the left arms are unusable. See pic:
The arm is about 2/3 the length of the others, and if mounted on the figure, his hand only extends to about the waist. It looks like everything above the elbow is missing, but there are no upper arms to use with these. I can't figure out what they're even doing in the set.
My boxes had 32 figures in them. Only 24 can be armed with bows. Not a big deal, just FYI. Also, there are no slings in the set. I think I will cannibalize some of the others I may have around for some slingers. The rest of the non-bow troops will probably end up with javelins.
Second, some of the left arms are unusable. See pic:
The arm is about 2/3 the length of the others, and if mounted on the figure, his hand only extends to about the waist. It looks like everything above the elbow is missing, but there are no upper arms to use with these. I can't figure out what they're even doing in the set.
Wargames Factory Persians - First Review
I put together a few of the Wargames Factory Persians today. I've got quite a few of them (some cavalry as well) stashed away for when I jump back into the (barely started) Macedonian/Diadochi project. At any rate, I very quickly put together a few of the archers so I could post some pictures. Here we go...
My comments are based on cleaning several boxes off their sprues and assembling just those few pictured above. I have't painted any... yet. I also haven't touched up some of the joints on the figures above, yet.
I think WF (or at least the original crew) was progressively getting better with each kit, and I think these Persians really show that. The detail is more pronounce, and the design is easy to paint. One of my biggest complaints about the Celts & Germans was the detail being too fine to easily paint on massed hordes of troops. They seem to have resolved that in this set.
I also think the faces are and improvement over some of the earlier sets. Although I am puzzled by the fact that they used two different neck joints. Some heads/bodies are flat, some are ball & socket joints. I haven't attempted to mix the two, though I suspect with a bit of work they should be OK.
As with earlier releases, there are a lot of different bits, a variety of heads and plenty of opportunity to make a huge horde of Persian levies look like it's got variety rather than a synchronized chorus line of the same three figures.
All that said, I think there are a few proportional/consistency issues that stand out on this set more than some of the past sets. The hands, for example -- the hands gripping the bows are big and meaty (almost like some of the worse GW examples) while the right hands drawing/releasing the (imagined) arrows are smaller. I realize there's some clothing & drapery there, but the upper torso of the the kneeling figure looks smaller than the lower torso and legs. The other two figures have one piece bodies, so appear more consistent.
A mix of weapons and shields are included, to build a variety of troop. But there are not enough of any one weapon to devote and entire box to one troop type. For example, if you just want a huge unit of archers, there are only enough bows for part of the box to be equipped as such. Personally, I'm going to use them as archers and javelin armed skirmishers (some conversions) so I think I will be OK.
As I said with earlier sets, if you're looking for a cheap way to bulk out units/armies, I think this is a good way to go. In fact, unlike the Germans, where I decided to stick with mainly a mix of Foundry, BTD and Crusader, I will end up putting most of my Persian stash to use, and even trying to convert a few for other purposes. Although not as flexible as their "Numidian" set, I do think that these offer some opportunities to be used as more than just Persians. (Well, "Persian" is a bit too general a term anyway, but that's a whole other discussion...)
I'll post some painted examples when I get to them. I feel bad for saying this (even considering my bumpy relationship with the new WF mangement,) but their own painted examples on their web page are really doing a disservice to these figures. But I guess that balances out with the fact that I've just given the figures a generally positive review. ;)
My comments are based on cleaning several boxes off their sprues and assembling just those few pictured above. I have't painted any... yet. I also haven't touched up some of the joints on the figures above, yet.
I think WF (or at least the original crew) was progressively getting better with each kit, and I think these Persians really show that. The detail is more pronounce, and the design is easy to paint. One of my biggest complaints about the Celts & Germans was the detail being too fine to easily paint on massed hordes of troops. They seem to have resolved that in this set.
I also think the faces are and improvement over some of the earlier sets. Although I am puzzled by the fact that they used two different neck joints. Some heads/bodies are flat, some are ball & socket joints. I haven't attempted to mix the two, though I suspect with a bit of work they should be OK.
As with earlier releases, there are a lot of different bits, a variety of heads and plenty of opportunity to make a huge horde of Persian levies look like it's got variety rather than a synchronized chorus line of the same three figures.
All that said, I think there are a few proportional/consistency issues that stand out on this set more than some of the past sets. The hands, for example -- the hands gripping the bows are big and meaty (almost like some of the worse GW examples) while the right hands drawing/releasing the (imagined) arrows are smaller. I realize there's some clothing & drapery there, but the upper torso of the the kneeling figure looks smaller than the lower torso and legs. The other two figures have one piece bodies, so appear more consistent.
A mix of weapons and shields are included, to build a variety of troop. But there are not enough of any one weapon to devote and entire box to one troop type. For example, if you just want a huge unit of archers, there are only enough bows for part of the box to be equipped as such. Personally, I'm going to use them as archers and javelin armed skirmishers (some conversions) so I think I will be OK.
As I said with earlier sets, if you're looking for a cheap way to bulk out units/armies, I think this is a good way to go. In fact, unlike the Germans, where I decided to stick with mainly a mix of Foundry, BTD and Crusader, I will end up putting most of my Persian stash to use, and even trying to convert a few for other purposes. Although not as flexible as their "Numidian" set, I do think that these offer some opportunities to be used as more than just Persians. (Well, "Persian" is a bit too general a term anyway, but that's a whole other discussion...)
I'll post some painted examples when I get to them. I feel bad for saying this (even considering my bumpy relationship with the new WF mangement,) but their own painted examples on their web page are really doing a disservice to these figures. But I guess that balances out with the fact that I've just given the figures a generally positive review. ;)
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